Re. Correct Craft Sea nautique

[Eyekymo]

Has anyone here any experience with the sea nautique? I happened upon an original brochure on the web, and they looked to be quite the pilothouse. Nice lines, and an inboard, too. I'd be interested in finding one, or at least finding out more about them.
Thanks, Mike

[morning wood]

I am not crazy about their bow flare . They have a nice profile but bow to they look boxy. It's tough to beat the lines of a Shamrock.
Morning Wood

[88 Stalker]

I have always loved the lines on the Correct Craft Sea Nautique. Correct Craft offered three versions of this boat over the years. The Fish Nautique, the Cuddy Nautique, and the Sea Nautique. They shared the same hull and engine configuration, but had different configurations topside. The Sea Nautique you mentioned is the pilot house version. I suspect that the pilot house would be quite rare, as I have only seen one in the 5 years that I have actively watched the market for these boats.

I do own a Shamrock, and I have done quite a bit of research comparing the two boats before purchasing my beloved Shamrock.

Here are the pros and cons as I see them.

Fish Nautique
Nice lines.
Deep Vee Hull, good rough water boat at speed.
Deep Vee Hull, not a very stable fishing platform.
Inboard engine (gotta love that)
I have seen quite a few used Fish Nautiques with structural problems (rotted stringers and bulkheads)
Wet in rough water
Faster than comperable Shamrock

Shamrock
Nicer Lines
Modified Vee with Keel, Good rough water boat, waves will pound you more than a Fish Nautique, but the shamrock is more stable.
Modified Vee with Keel, a very stable fishing platform.
Inboard engine (gotta love that)
Shamrock are rock solid boats. I have never seen stringer rot or rotten bulkheads on a Shamrock. Shamrocks are heavy boats.
Wet in rough weather.
Slower than a Fish Nautique.

There are always a few Correct Crafts with this hull for sale on Boat Trader, and Yacht Trader.

[fisherofmen]

Stalker,

I think thats an excellent analysis of the two boats. I too am a shamrock lover/owner but have owned many nautiques and they rate high in my book.

Rick

[Anonymous]

http://www.correctcraftfan.com/reference/1982_brochure/index.asp?page=17

[Anonymous]

the best 23 cc inboard ever made. http://www.correctcraftfan.com/reference/1989_brochure/index.asp?page=17

[Anonymous]

Rick go offer him 7500 , I bet that tower cost 4000. http://auctions.floridasportsman.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?boat24ov&1102942387&class&3&4&

[88 Stalker]

Thanks for the links John. I had not seen the Sea Nautique brochure on CC fan the last time I looked. That site gets better all the time, and is an excellent resource for CC owners.

Dave

[Anonymous]

rare one. http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?currency=USD&units=Feet&checked_boats=1208678&slim=quick&

[Anonymous]

even more rare , twin rotary. http://www.rotarypowermarine.com/Fish_Natique.jpg

[Anonymous]

http://www.rotarypowermarine.com/Fish_Natique_Engines.jpg

[KIRK KILLEBREW]

I've always been curious about the rotary engine. Any ideas about them (reliability, cost, efficiency, etc..) or where to find info. K

[Anonymous]

http://www.monito.com/wankel/marine.html

[Anonymous]

how about 24 engines. http://www.dolmette.com/

[MC]

I visit the Florida Sportsman forum a lot. Came accross that Fish Nautique a few weeks ago. Always like the layouts of that boat. Not as "pretty" as a Shamrock, but a ton of room. It would be a toss up between that boat and a 246 open.

I like that boat, but am very content w/ my current Shamrock. I'd take a for a signficiant test run, check it out and get ready to buy it.

[Anonymous]

hate to say it but looks was and still is shamrocks biggest problem , if they don't change them they will go BK again.

[mymojo]

:? Tell me you're kidding!
I've never had as many good compliments on how a boat looks than I've had with either my 22 walk around or 260 express..
Greg J

[88 Stalker]

I agree with you Greg, I have had people see me coming into port, and meet me at the dock just to look over my Shammy. It always made me feel real proud.

Dave.

[grreatdog]

Everybody's taste is different and you know what they say about opinions. But the way my Shamrock looks is the one thing I can always count on getting compliments. Even with faded teak and a battered hull, almost everyone seems to like the look. The scary thing is that sailboaters really like the way it looks. My dock is mostly 40'+ sailboats and my little Shammie is quite popular with that crowd. Even the Grady and Parker clique here seem to like it. The only negative comments I have heard about my boat have come from the go-fast crowd that is so prevalent on South River. I guess it doesn't sit low enough in the stern or make enough noise for them. Or maybe they just don't like windshields.

[Anonymous]

Looks are the biggest problem at Shamrock , most important thing is looks when people go boat shopping. http://www.shamrockboats.com/shamrock/content.php?section=products&model=246O

[Anonymous]

this is what Shamrock should be making. http://www.northrip.net/

[mymojo]

Can't argue that the North rip is a beautiful cc. Still think the 22 wac by Shamrock is at least as attractive to my (and a lot of other people's) eyes. I also think that some - a lot maybe -people do buy based primarily on looks alone and that if Shamrock could get in front of more prospective buyers - thru advertising or a bigger dealer network - they would hold their own - just my .02
Greg J

[Anonymous]

inboard version of this. http://www.floridasportsman.com/features/dreamboat_carolina_custom/

[easytimes455]

this is what Shamrock should be making. http://www.northrip.net/

That's just a de-emphasized S frame. The pronounced S frame has been built here in the Carolinas for about five decades, and they're pretty too. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but for my use, that unprotected drive gear just won't work in this area, where sand bars change locations overnight.

Frankly I think this one's just gawdjus... maybe I'm prejudice... okay, I am... so sue me.
http://www.shamrockboats.com/photos/big/S220_S_03.jpg
Actually, check out the line as you look down the side of my boat. It's not easy to see from the side, but looking down the side profile you can see that same S frame effect. It's subtle but still there. Kinda purty.
http://homepage.mac.com/easytimes/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-10-27%2011.17.37%20-0700/Image-5937A18A284411D9.jpg

[Anonymous]

for cheap people like me the nautique is the best looking boat for the money , one in nice shape can be had for 10 or less , and alot came with the prop guard , it protects good without the drag of a keel. http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_display_photo.jsp?slim=quick&boat_id=1265422&boatname=23%27+Correct+Craft+Fish+Nautique&photo_name=Heading+out&photo=5

[Anonymous]

picture of a prop guard. http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_display_photo.jsp?slim=quick&boat_id=1168788&boatname=23%27+Correct+Craft+23+CUDDY+NAUTIQUE&photo_name=null&photo=1&url=

[88 Stalker]

Wow that north Rip is a beauty.

Which one are you buying John the 20 or the 27. I'd go for the 27 with the big diesel if I were you.

All I can do is dream about a custom boat like that. Quite a different market than Shamrock.

Dave.

[Anonymous]

how about this Buddy Davis http://banddboatworks.com/Image17-4x6.jpg

[Anonymous]

how about this Buddy Davis http://banddboatworks.com/Image17-4x6.jpg

[easytimes455]

Not quite. Buddy Davis builds these, but the design features are the same as the concept you posted. Sounds like they are built at the same plant, however. All the design features seem to be there.
http://www.buddydavis.com/images/45illustartions_blue2.jpg
http://www.buddydavis.com/images/facility.jpg
Here's a Jarret Bay custom.
http://www.jarrettbayyachtsales.com/images/listings/285_1086634946.jpg
This one's a Shearline. A new boat in the Carolina tradition. Very much like the North Rip in hull design.
http://www.shearlineboatworks.com/images/78.jpg
All of these boats are built fifty miles up the coast from me. Gotta love that Carolina flare and S frame. Too bad the price for these type hulls is so expensive to build effectively and maintain the intentions of the design. The configuration below the waterline is pretty similar to our Shamrocks on many of these boats.

[Anonymous]

There's a nice articlee on the Jarret Bay boats in this issue of Sounding's magazine for those who are interested in reading up on this beautiful boat. Oh and they have a price range of $400k-4mill................ :shock:

[mymojo]

OOps forgot to log in
Greg J
another Irish Wake
260 Express Yanmar 6lp

[Anonymous]

it all started with Carl Moesly. http://www.classicseacraft.com/CaptSkip23IB.htm

[Anonymous]

it all started with Carl Moesly. http://www.classicseacraft.com/CaptSkip23IB.htm

[Anonymous]

http://www.classicseacraft.com/moselyarticle1.htm

[Anonymous]

this will be my next boat. http://www.sea-wrangler.com/images/gallery/seawrangler_02.jpg

[easytimes455]

There's a nice articlee on the Jarret Bay boats in this issue of Sounding's magazine for those who are interested in reading up on this beautiful boat. Oh and they have a price range of $400k-4mill................ :shock:

Ain't it great? Hey, as long as we're dreamin'... why not go for the gusto? I just love being able to see so many classic lines running around our area. You can even get an outing on a Carolina hull with all the charter craft... and that doesn't cost nearly as much.

[Abobis]

One feature that looks great on the Shammy's is the integrated exhaust on the swim platform.

[easytimes455]

this will be my next boat. http://www.sea-wrangler.com/images/gallery/seawrangler_02.jpg

I haven't researched this boat very much, mainly because it has an outboard model in every iteration of the hulls they make. I'm wondering if the hulls were originally designed to be inboards, or if they were designed to be outboards and just change enough to put an inboard in them. I'm sure they aren't cheap, so I would want to know that before I purchased. They look a lot like the Contender line.
http://seaveeboats.com/html/images/WEBPICS/290i_open.jpghttp://seaveeboats.com/html/images/WEBPICS/290b_cuddy.jpg

Design criteria would concern me, since true inboards are structured and the bilge is configured differently than outboard designs. I believe KCS tried to add outboards to some of the Shamrock line without much success. KCS attempts may not be indicative of a good effort, however.

The Sea Vee a great looking boat, but aesthetically, I have always liked the swoop of the S frame gunwale and at least an insinuation of a Carolina flare. By your first comments about the boat Shamrock should build, I thought that was your ideal design.

I got the idea now... offshore diesel is your preference, if I'm getting the point.

[Anonymous]

I was thinking of offering 45 http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?currency=USD&units=Feet&checked_boats=1201659&slim=quick&

[Anonymous]

seavee knows how to build an inboard. http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=258616

[easytimes455]

seavee knows how to build an inboard. http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=258616

I don't doubt it, but if I invested that kind of money, I would have some substantive information to that effect, beyond company advertising. A lack of doubts and positive information are two vastly different things. If they were primarily an inboard builder, I still can't help but wonder why they have more outboard models throughout the range of sizes. That's not typical of most builders, except where size differences create that natural break.

I thought you might like to share anything you had along those lines since you seem to be dead set against considering a Shamrock for your purchase. After all, this is a site where we share information, not just bash the theme host product. Not everyone who comes here is looking to buy a Shamrock, and that's what this part of the forum is about. If you posted some first hand information about Sea Vee, not available on the website, I'm sure someone would appreciate it as they read through the archives.

[Anonymous]

this is a copy of the old sea craft , plus 1 foot , can't get the website to work , maybe they went bk , the 23 sea craft is best 23 ever made , maybe shamrock could get the mold. http://www.boatshow.com/POWER/Silverhawk24.html

[mymojo]

Hey John - Why am I getting the sense that you're trying to bait us into getting defensive about our owning/liking our Shamrocks? Like Easy and others have said here's plenty of beautiful boats out there - we happen to like our Shamrocks for amultitude of reasons not the least of which is price when compared against some of the previously mentioned manufacturer's products.
What am I missing?
:wink: Greg J

[Anonymous]

selling any slow inboard is hard nowdays , 3 to 4 dollar a gallon gas is what will save shamrock, because of diesel option being able to get 7 or more miles per gallon , and the fact you can run offroad diesel, and biodiesel.

[Anonymous]

take a look at our future. http://www.bigwig.net/sergey/hubbert.htm

[Anonymous]

and here's what a 7 plus miles per gallon offshore boat will look like , 1.7L diesel. http://boats.iboats.com/cgi-bin/marine_classifieds/view_photos.cgi?ad_id=43529&img=1&count=1

[Abobis]

John,

The old Silverhawk has become the new Topaz 24
http://www.topazboats.com/Site/24center/24center.html

Tournament Yachts/Bimini Marine is still making the "original" Topaz
http://www.tournamentyachts.com/

[Anonymous]

timeless. http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?currency=USD&units=Feet&checked_boats=1264369&slim=quick&

[easytimes455]

I don't know if I totally agree with your take on "slow" boats. If you do much boating, you will see that most people out on the water cruise at 25-30 mph, even those go fast outboards. I have no problem doing a 28-29 mph cruise with my boat, and if I had an emergency, I could push ten mph more by my GPS, for a short time. Newer Shamrocks aren't quite as slow as they once were, but slower running is what most people do much more of the time.

Historically, Shamrock just never advertised to the market niche they could fill best. Their ads looked like everyone else's.

Just look at the bottom of the forums list... we have nearly a thousand members. I think that says something for "slow boating". Show me another single boat product forum with such a following. Not to mention, this is one of the best forums on boats and boat maintenance on the Internet. We haven't always been so well accepted by the manufacturer as we are now, either. (Thanks Bo)

I have no problem with the Sea Craft site, it's right where it's always been. I believe they build a quality vessel, as well. Here's your 23...
http://www.seacraft-boats.com/Boat%20Images/SC23%20Classic%20Blue.gif
I think you might get a little argument from Contender or Regulator on the "best boat" comment, not to mention their owners. They build 23's as well. That Contender picture is slow loading, for as small as it is.
http://www.contender.com/images/150_23open.jpghttp://www.regulatormarine.com/images/23-running.jpg
I know both of these to be tough offshore boats, for anyone who likes outboards, but I would hesitate to say they are the best... I just don't know what best means for everyone. The definition of best is up to the individual buying the boat, but he can't speak for everyone, because everyone doesn't want the same thing.

If I were really considering an offshore rig at this time, I might consider the Strike 26. I'd have to do more research, but it's more in line with this site. But for now, I'm just running my keyboard and doing one of the things I like to do... looking at boats.

The Strike line comes with diesels, too. I am reasonably sure they cost considerably more than a Shamrock. Relative cost is one benefit of owning a Shamrock.
http://www.strikeyachts.com/images/26_1new.jpg
Or this one for the more sheltered type of boater.
http://www.strikeyachts.com/images/26_1.jpg

[Anonymous]

at 30 mph I am running the piss out of my fish nautique , and it's a faster boat than shamrock , I cruise 23 mph at 2600 rpm.

[Hutch]

That new Topaz is a nice looking boat. I think I saw that exact boat down in Ocean City, NJ last sumer.

[easytimes455]

If you want to race, I'm up for it. If you run up on a newer 22 foot Shamrock with a 5.7 engine, you might get your gunwales blown off if you can get him to race you.

Most of us don't care to race, but I still have some kid in me. I'll give you that run, if you push for it.

I have seen 40 mph on my GPS at WOT, by the way. That was only twice and only for about fifteen seconds each time. My sweet spot is between 2800 and 3200, and I can usually make 26-30 mph at those levels. I can't speak for any other Shamrocks, but if the people who have the boat loading video disks I have made, are online and would speak up, I'm sure they will back me up on that.

Here's a couple images from that video... tough to see, but they can be deciphered by a Shamrock owner with an original tach.
This is showing 3100 rpm on the stock tach.
http://homepage.mac.com/easytimes/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-10-28%2010.20.02%20-0700/Image-6F4B674E290511D9.jpg
This is easier to read... same sequence and rpm, but the SOG.
http://homepage.mac.com/easytimes/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-10-28%2010.20.02%20-0700/Image-6F4BE750290511D9.jpg

[Anonymous]

it must be that flat transom , I think my ski boat has more deadrise

[Anonymous]

what I think is the best buy in a CC inboard. http://www.dusky.com/256inboardprice.html

[easytimes455]

Same transom as the other Shamrocks with a keel. I think it's about 7 degrees or something. I don't know what makes the difference. I just be ridin'. My bottom isn't painted, but neither are other bottoms that won't go that fast on the older boats.

As far as the older boats, I think the narrower beam may be part of the deal. I believe the extra six inches may give more planing surface and may ride higher out of the water, but I really don't know. I just know what she does.

Other boats with the new Chevy power seem to be like mine on speed, from what people have posted. I know I can run with or without trim tabs. In other words, I don't push water when I run. I am on full plane at cruising speed. At lower speeds the tabs help, but very little at 3000+ rpm.

You might want to reconsider the Shamrock line. If the diesels are as good as everyone says, I would love to see about 315 hp of diesel power in mine, just to see how it would do.

[Anonymous]

http://www.dusky.com/256gallery/4.jpg

[easytimes455]

I shopped them one time... nice price, if you are looking for a cheap boat. The interiors aren't gelcoated and they are a relatively sloppy on fit and finish, but they seem to be rugged, otherwise. Certainly not in the league with any of the boats we've been discussing.

Yer headed down hill, ya know.

[Anonymous]

24 degrees makes for a nice offshore ride , my buddy has the same boat as you but with a 240 yanmar , he had to go to a bigger shaft , that 315 would twist that boat apart.

[Anonymous]

not gelcoated ? http://www.dusky.com/256gallery/10.jpg

[easytimes455]

It's been a while since I have shopped for them, but when I looked the boats had gray spattered interiors. Some still do, by their website. I don't know if that's gelcoat or just white paint in the picture. I guess ya gotta be there. I'm still not interested.

[Anonymous]

the 25 dusky with that cummins is a offshore fishing machine , and sells for the same price as the shamrock 246 open with a gas pop. http://www.dusky.com/pictures/256bow.jpg

[easytimes455]

Yep, like I said, the price is really low on a Dusky. Fortier costs more too, but people still buy them.

[Eyekymo]

John,
You seem to be quite variable as to what you want in your next boat. While I applaude the quality of your picks, the only thing that seems to be prevalent is the presence of a diesel. Don't get me wrong. I got hooked on possibilities of diesel propulsion long ago. I also really like the lines of each and every one ( most, anyway) of your links. You have, however gone from a boat that might draft 10" (Pachanga), to a boat that might make it through a hurricane (Carolina style), to a boat that would definately outrun a hurricane (Pursuit style). In my own humble opinion the Shamrock is a most acceptable compromise. They have looks to kill, will handle heavy seas, draft little, last forever, and they are cheap dates, with respect to upkeep, fuel consumption, and repowering. With respect to speed, my 20' will push close to 40 knots, though it porposes like your Contender will when doing 60. I fish in a wide variety of situations, and my Shammy is up to the task. I watch the boards here, when I can, and it seems like most everybody that owns one likes them. Alot. Thanks, Mike

[Anonymous]

I want to run 30 mph in 3 to 5's , and burn 5 gallons per hour

[Anonymous]

I want to run 30 mph in 3 to 5's , and burn 5 gallons per hour

[Anonymous]

it's 75 mile run to get where the big boys live http://www.fishflorida.net/html/site/picts.htm

[easytimes455]

Here's the only suggestion I can come up with. Should do better than 5 GPH.
http://www.hobiecat.com/sailing/images/tiger/gallery_01_lr.jpg

[Anonymous]

I think maybe the sea vee is a better idea. http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?currency=USD&units=Feet&checked_boats=1201659&slim=quick&

[easytimes455]

Good lookin' rig. When are you getting it? Or are you just dreaming?

Somehow, I don't think the 5 gph is doing thirty mph over 3-5 footers, as you mention above. Remember, 3-5 footers are caused by something. Wind has a way of slowing you down and causing an increased fuel burn. In my experience, you seldom go with the wind in both directions... and I don't know if I would want to do that off our shore, anyway.

I can get 5 gph on my rig, but I wouldn't want to run to the Continental Shelf running slow enough to burn that little fuel and that's about the distance you're talking about running, from my inlet. Talk about feeling like a cork in a bathtub.

It would be cheaper and easier to get five guys and take a charter out there. Nothing like a fast 40-50 foot Carolina hull and a knowledgable captain, in my book. We have enough of those around here to make it fairly easy to do.

[morning wood]

Capn. If you want to keep your teeth and run 30kts in 3 to 5, Like they said in JAWS your'e going to need a bigger boat. 5gph sorry it aint gonna happen. But lookin sure is fun.
Morning Wood

[Anonymous]

look at the numbers for a new 34 sea vee with a 540 cummins. I ran about 73 miles on saturday and only burned 25.2 gallons. I had the boat fully loaded with diesel 250 gallons fishing gear and three guys on the boat. My average cruise for saturday with the 3-5 seas was about 33 mph at 2100 rpms. I let the motor run all day never shutting it off to get some hours on it and was really happy with the burn rate at idle out of gear .2 gph. When the boat is in gear at the lowest idle posible the boat runs about 6mph burning .5 to .7 gph. I only ran it wide open a few times to see how the boat would handle and to see what speed i could get out of it and the results were 40.5 mph.

[Anonymous]

look at the numbers for a new 34 sea vee with a 540 cummins. I ran about 73 miles on saturday and only burned 25.2 gallons. I had the boat fully loaded with diesel 250 gallons fishing gear and three guys on the boat. My average cruise for saturday with the 3-5 seas was about 33 mph at 2100 rpms. I let the motor run all day never shutting it off to get some hours on it and was really happy with the burn rate at idle out of gear .2 gph. When the boat is in gear at the lowest idle posible the boat runs about 6mph burning .5 to .7 gph. I only ran it wide open a few times to see how the boat would handle and to see what speed i could get out of it and the results were 40.5 mph.

[easytimes455]

Are you saying you bought the boat, or was this just a sea trial?

Sounds good to me, if all those numbers are on the money, it's just not the 5 gph you claimed to be seeking in your earlier post. Sounds like you ran a little over two hours at 33 mph, and burned 25.2 gallons. That was the point we were trying to make. But I'm ready to hear of a boat that can do those numbers you wanted... I think we all are.

I would also suggest that not all 3-5's are created equal. You have wave pitch that will make a big difference with the 3-5 numbers, especially that 5. This also follows what MW said... takes a bigger boat. A 34 should take much more than a 26 or 27.

If you purchased this craft, congratulations. If not... why not? Sounds as if you're sold on it. Seems like the best match for you, unless you're still holding out for the 5 gph @ 33mph. Yowee, 6.6 mpg would be great for me. Be sure to post up if you ever find that one.

[Anonymous]

no it's not my boat , but I am looking at the 29 , the 34 is big money 2x the 29's 70k. http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=258616

[easytimes455]

I believe it would be tough to consider a 29 after trialing a 34, especially after the reaction you seemed to have.

How about a second job? Third?

My Shamrock cost a little over seven times what I paid for my house, when I first purchased the house in 1970. I call that priorities.

Luckily for me, the one boat I sea trialed that cost nearly double the price of the Shamrock didn't impress me as that 34 impressed you. Actually, it was my disappointment over that boat that caused me to find the Shamrock. Close call.

[Leprechaun]

I guess ya'all can't see a troll for what it is.

Why are you guys debating the Devil's Advocate? You're all wasting your time.

The guy is all over the place, obviously just doesn't care for a real inboard boat, keeps talking about boats that were never really designed for inboard installation, rather they offer an inboard option in a boat designed for an outboard in the hope that a real inboard afficionado will bite. In many cases he links to pictures of boats that cost many times what a decent Shammie costs and on top of that he wants to go 30+ knots in 3-5 seas. NO boat will last the 18 seasons my boat has and bang thru a TRUE 3-5' ocean at high speed like he claims he wants. Not even a Reggie Fountain creation can do that and have a long life. That's why you just don't see many tru go-fasts with big age on them. They just fall apart from that "Bang thru the big ocean" mentality.

He brings up Dusky. I have a buddy with a brand new Dusky 25 with a pair of 4-cycle Yamahas on it. He's got all kinds of fit and finish issues, the steering is a leaky hydraulic nightmare and he's getting ZERO help on any of the issues from the factory. So much for factory-direct pricing from a builder 1500 miles away. And they want to sell me an inboard boat in place of my veteran Shammie 26? No thanks, I'm already on my own fixing my old boat. No need to spend $80K to have the same level of non-support.

Some people just will never get it and to endlessly eat up site bandwidth debating with such foolishness is just a waste of the short time that the good Lord has allocated to you.

Lep/moderator

[Tony]

My guess is, this guy is a used boat salesman. Trying to drum up some winter business. We could poll opinions for entertainment sake, or, as his off the mark posts don't really add anything to this site, just vaporize his remarks through our all knowing moderator abilities. How about it Gavin, whats the scoop on this guy?

[easytimes455]

Don't be a bunch of spoil sports... after all, this is the NON-Shamrock forum. I get to look at other boats, and in the end, it still goes back to what it's always been. It's also involved in boats and boating, which is never a waste of bandwidth on this or any forum. Other sports might be debatable as to their propriety or value to bandwidth ratio, but not by me. As long as the paying and active members are involved it's valid, in my opinion.

We all have dream boats... and if we were all to name our ultimate dream vessel, it's almost unanimously not a Shamrock.

Some of the troller's suggestions are worthy of mention, and they almost always carry a much bigger price tag than a Shamrock. That's part of what makes a Shamrock what it is. You can get close to the boat of your dreams, and not have to auction off your first born or the wife's services to get one.

The most fun are the personal emails that have been going on behind this thread, which haven't taxed the bandwidth, thank goodness. I also love watching trolls do circles like those little water beetles you see in ponds... just spinning with no apparent direction.

[morning wood]

Now you have run him off. Nothing better than a little comedy to beat some stress. Well it was fun while it lasted.
Morning Wood

[easytimes455]

Don't blame that one on me.

[Leprechaun]

If I want a pictoral boat show, I'll go to boattraderonline.com or yachtworld.com.

We don't need our self-financed drive space taken up with endless examples of why our boats don't appeal to this guy.

Let him contribute his wealth of knowledge to thehulltruth.com or some other debating club.

Or he can kick in a few bux here and maybe pay for some of that silly tripe he wrote.

Sorry, but six pages is more than enough space for him to have made his point.

By the way, I was out in a TRUE 3-6' ocean yesterday and ran with it on my starboard rear quarter for 22 miles at 17-23mph. The boat handled superbly, but I really can't say the same for many of the 40mph outboard "Real fishing boats" I passed on the way in. You should have seen their faces as I blew passed them and watched them struggle with their deep-vee boats trying to run at that "Almost planing" plowing speed. Just priceless.

The goodness and fine marine architecture of these hulls shows itself in the worst possible conditions.

Lep

[easytimes455]

You da man. I won't be doing that anymore.
Thanks for the heads up.

[Tony]

Love It......... :idea:

[Eyekymo]

Jeez Louise! All this because I said I liked the lines of a boat that might not even exist anymore. Our guest does seem to have a whole lot of time on his hands. And I'll bet that if he has a boat, the moniker on the stern is "Sybil". What do ya think? Mike

[easytimes455]

This is the time of year when boaters turn from naval play to navel play... if you get my non-angling drift.

[morning wood]

Come on Lep. A Shammy out perform a Deep Vee boat. Sounds a little Fishy to me.
Morning Wood