For Sale: 1996 22 WA

[i fish]

This is avery clean boat. Fuel inj V8 w/ 540 hrs. Well equipped. Dry stored.Yard serviced. Asking 28,000 obo.

[Tony]

If you want results or feedback, get your self a digital camera. Rent, borrow, or buy. You will be surpised what a little effort will do to your add. Good Luck.

[Squid Row]

If you do not have a digital camera, take your film to an eckerd or cvs pharmacy and have them "develop" onto a cd so you can post some pics.

Sounds like a sweet boat!

[i fish]

Anyone interested in a Shamrock should know what a 22 wa looks like.

Photos?

[fisherofmen]

i fish,

I agree, that anybody who is interested in a 22 Shamrock cuddy knows what they look like. What they don't know is what your boat looks like. A picture is worth a thousand words. There could be 10k difference in your boat just based on condition. Post the pictures and you will sell the boat.

Rick

[i fish]

Once again, maybe this time I'll state this boat is in Bristol condition.

Photos are redundent and unecessary. That's the same isn't it?

Look up Brtistol condition.

[Holty]

i fish....I will be the fourth member to suggest you post some pictures of your rig. Now THAT is REDUNDANT but the pictures are NECESSARY if you are serious about selling. So why don't you show us some bristol pics??

regards Holty

[mymojo]

Geez - and me without my dictionary.
Over 430 views and no takers? Maybe some pictures would help.....
Greg J

[easytimes455]

I have never heard of Bristol condition before, duh. But I have heard of mountebanks engaging in ostentatious didactics as an advertising ruse, to suppress investigation by their intended marks... uh customers to effect a sale. I think the point would be, "We may have been born at night... it just wasn't last night.

When you find someone who will buy your boat, sight unseen, how about pass the name to me. I could use some money, too.

Greg... don't put that dictionary away.

[easytimes455]

450 views!?!?!?... "HOLY CRAP MARIE"... you can't buy advertising like that over on Boattraderonline.com. You'd be lucky to get five views a day over there.
Just think what pictures could do...
http://homepage.mac.com/easytimes/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-07-21%2020.17.29%20-0700/Image-8AB86D86DB8D11D8.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/easytimes/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-12-08%2005.11.19%20-0800/Image-550F405E491A11D9.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/easytimes/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-12-08%2005.11.19%20-0800/Image-550F52C4491A11D9.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/easytimes/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-12-08%2005.11.19%20-0800/Image-550F5FCA491A11D9.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/easytimes/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-12-08%2005.11.19%20-0800/Image-550F77AC491A11D9.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/easytimes/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-12-08%2005.11.19%20-0800/Image-55106A9C491A11D9.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/easytimes/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-12-08%2005.20.09%20-0800/Image-C5ECE90C491B11D9.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/easytimes/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-12-08%2005.20.09%20-0800/Image-C5ED7A8A491B11D9.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/easytimes/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-12-08%2005.20.09%20-0800/Image-C5ED92FC491B11D9.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/easytimes/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-12-08%2005.20.09%20-0800/Image-C5EDA104491B11D9.jpg
Nah... I think you're right... pictures don't help anything. Besides, their too easy to do. It's a bigger challenge to sell a boat without showing people the condition. Go for it.

[Paul McTavish]

Easy your so bad, your good! :twisted:

Thanks for including my boat in your list of " bristol" boats.

[easytimes455]

Paul,
Anything to promote clarity. I'm too old to puzzle this stuff out. Of course, when I was younger, I never read the Playboy articles, either. What idiot would do that when he can look at a good looking undressed woman?

I am bad... I won't skip an opportunity to have another look at the boats I know live on this forum.

Did I ever mention that I go into my "Other Shamrocks" image folder and do slideshows with the boats you guys so lovingly restore? I'm always happy to see someone post a high resolution picture of their boat. I make sure I copy it and save it, so I can enjoy it too.

That Gizmo butt is as fine as you'll see... I couldn't leave it out. At my age, I'd rather look at that than a nice 29 year old woman's backside... uh... well, almost. I'm not quite that old.

[Tony]

:D

....et moi aussie, mes amie

[easytimes455]

:D

....et moi aussie, mes amie

Huh? you don't talk that way on the phone.

[i fish]

Before I spend time and money on photos, How many of you out there are serious boat buyers or just ball busters with no life???!!!

[mymojo]

Hey ET- Who's boat is that yellow hulled beauty? Is it 26 Mac? Must've cost you you a fortune to take all those pictures.
Greg J

[Squid Row]

Hey ifish,

Are you for real? Selling a boat requires time and money. If you are too cheap to spring for a $5 throw away camera and another $5 at the local pharmacy to develop the pics onto a CD, then a free upload here.. I seriously have to wonder about how cheap you are in the maintenance of this "bristol" boat.

$10 in pics to a Shamrock Owner? I spend more than that on soap after a fishing trip.

And by the way, Shamrock Owners know of more people looking to buy a Shamrock than anyone else because we bring people on our boats that fall in love with them, just as we did when on others Shamrocks.

So my advice to you, and take it for what that is worth, is either get serious about selling it, or hand it off to a broker and let him sweat out the details.

Best of luck to you.
Rich
aka.. Squid Row

[easytimes455]

Hey buddy,
You're the one wanting to sell your boat. Obviously you don't lift a wrench to tend to her, so don't come around here looking down your nose at those of us who do. Talking smack doesn't help a salesman's efforts, you know.

Like the guy told me when I wanted to sell mine. "If you are serious about selling it, you better get some pictures of it." Are you telling me you want to sell it but it's not worth a lousy twenty bucks to dump it? You ain't serious, man.

Here's how it goes. Buy yourself one of those paper cameras. When you get a few shots of the boat, go to a processing place and get the images made into one of those picture CD's. Bring it to your computer and post the pictures here. Somebody might take you up on it.

To be perfectly honest, it's a long shot to sell a Shamrock on a forum that has nothing but Shamrock owners. It's worth a try, but you better understand who you're dealing with. Your lack of research and effort is no skin off our noses.

Other than that, I hope you can find a good owner for your boat. She needs one.

[fisherofmen]

i fish,

In the last 20 years I have sold over 40 boats I have owned. I have only sold one (1) without a picture and it was a $3000 knock about boat. If you are serious then post some pictures. What's the big deal. In July I sold my 99 shamrock 246 on this site. I listed it on Boat trader with a premier add and got no takers. People come to this site because they are looking for a shamrock. Instead of trying to calculate a level of interest post up some pictures. ITS FREE. I paid over a $100 bucks on the boat trader and got nothing.

Just my opinion

Rick

[easytimes455]

Greg,
That's Clover Rover before the launch after the makeover. I'm trying to remember if that's a stock hardtop or or he extended it. You'll have to wait for a response from the owner. Ain't she purty?

Rich,
All I have to say to you is "great minds think alike". But you gotta upgrade the camera deal. Come on, man... more resolution or something. Take some of that soap money and make some more pictures, will ya? Five bucks?

I can't believe this much fun is free.

[Paul McTavish]

I fish; I own a 170 open and am always on the lookout to upgrade (if the price is right) However I'm not going to purcase a boat I have never seen. If you can't post the pics. can you e-mail them?

I know "the board" has come down on you pretty hard. (which they normally don't do) But give us a break, as far as we know the boat may not exist. Even with pics. who knows?

Don't get me wrong but if you really want to sell your boat, the person buying it will want to see it at one point or another without having to travel.

[Holty]

Yep...were bad.........but it felt pretty good to me......how did it feel to you CB....you ball bustin bad boy :twisted:

regards Holty

will we see this rig???

[easytimes455]

Yep...were bad.........but it felt pretty good to me......how did it feel to you CB....you ball bustin bad boy


Ball bustin'? Aux contrar! I don't play with genitals. (How's that one, Tony?)

I'm a Southerner... we don't do such acts.
I'm more of a "boat poster". And I'm a real sweetie if you gets ta know me.

Anyways, youse guys adjusted the hell out of my attitude when I first got here. Turnabout's fair play and payback's a medivac.

People can learn about more than just boats on this forum... if they let it sink in just a little.

[Eyekymo]

Bristol lives in Tennessee, and I never saw a Shamrock there. If such a boat did exist, I'll bet it was in pristine shape. Mike

[easytimes455]

Not if it ran around the high banks of Bristol while the NASCAR boys are out there with their cars. There would be all sorts of paint smears, gelcoat chips, and scratches.

Having my boat struck by a car gives me a good indication of how a Shamrock would hold up. Shamrocks win, hands down, and the cars are usually totaled, when they tangle with our boats at high speed. But the relatively minor damage the cars do to the hull is expensive to repair. I don't recommend taking a Shamrock to Bristol.

[i fish]

To Rick----fisherofmen

Thanks for yr comments. Yr the only one making any sense.

I am just 1 1/2 hr south of you . Wish there was some way to privately talk to you.

Again, I'm not sure of the motives of the rest of the respondents.

Again, are you SERIOUS buyers or what?

This boat is in sw FL.

Toured the Shamrock plant Th. Saw my new boat under way. Will be done by year end.

Enjoy the weekend.

[easytimes455]

Again, I'm not sure of the motives of the rest of the respondents.

Again, are you SERIOUS buyers or what?



Actually, i fish, I would ask if you are a SERIOUS seller? If you don't care enough to post a single picture to confirm your claim of condition, why should we bend over backwards to help you? After all, we don't know you and, we don't even have a life, according to you.

If you want to sell that boat, the short answer goes this way... you're going to have to invest in the sale. Most of us aren't looking for a boat, since we already have Shamrocks. But as grreatdog said, we do have friends who may want one. Not to mention, Rick told you the same thing everyone else said. Are you only siding up with him to access his possible connection to a yacht sales?

I would be very happy to help you post pictures if you don't know how it's done. You wouldn't be the first I've helped and you won't be the last.

I would suggest you understand who you're engaging here. This is a loose knit but fairly close brotherhood of boat owners who enjoy kidding around with each other along with assisting one another to better maintain and improve our boats. If you take yourself or us too seriously, you won't do well asking for help, here. We carry on like any group of guys who trust each other. We're irreverent at times. But most of all, we don't take ourselves too seriously.

If all you want to do is use us to dump your boat, that's fine... if the boat is nice enough and you drop the price to suit one of the boat hunters, it all works out. If you want us to beat the bushes to find a buyer for you, it might work better if you took your time and worked with us a little. Trust goes a long way for doing things in this life, especially when it involves selling something.
Good luck with that boat.

[i fish]

I didn't come to this site to play word games.

Ihave a cleanboat to sell. I have ordered another 22 wa. I love the boat.

I met Bo Palmer at the plant. I was impresssed with his warmth and desire to put out a good product. There are plans to build a new plant. It is heart warming to see and hear of success while we hear mostly of plants closing and going to China.

Enough!!!!

[mymojo]

Ifish,
Ok the picture stuff has been beat to death. How about a little more detail on the description of what's included; trailer, what electronics if any, brand of motor, fwc or rwc., canvas, hard top. Just now found out it's in SW Florida so that takes it out consideration for a friend here in New England but he was interested in such a boat but also wanted to know about all the little things that might come with it for 28k. Hope this helps.
Greg J
another Irish Wake
260 Express Yanmar 6lp

[Anonymous]

ifish:

I am someone who is loloking for a boat. I currenlty do not own a boat, but I have been on many shamrocks and I love them. That is why I came to this site. BUT I WILL NOT EVEN CONSIDER A BOAT WITHOUT PICTURES. I happen to live in Orlando. If I saw pictures I might be influenced to come down and see your boat. Without pics, no chance on making the drive.


Mike

[Damon]

I have a solution for the photo delihma here. If somebody lives near the boat, offer to take the pictures and post them for this gentleman (I would if I lived in the same neighborhood). When I was shopping for my Shamrock about 3 years ago on the Boat Trader and Yacht World web sites, I completely ignored the small handful of ads that did not include photos (I did eventually purchase my boat via yachtworld). I guess I'm one of those visual types :shock: who needs to be stimulated by visual aids, which is probably common in the male spicies (I'm not sure if this is a good or bad thing).

BTW, congratulations on your new purchase!

[i fish]

Photo and detailed list of equip this pm.

Don't everybody faint!!!!

[Holty]

Pics this pm ? NOW your talking........Charles, start making the popcorn.

[micky692002]

Hey ifish, where are the pics??

[fisherofmen]

Hey guys,

I had a long conversation with Ifish today. He is a very serious seller. He is not computer savey, but does want to sell his boat. He emailed me the attached photo and i have requested that he send me some more and i will post them. He has ordered a new boat from the factory, same model just with a diesel. I will say this has been an interesting post.

[Seabear]

Well gentlemen, you have just confirmed why I love my shammy and this web-site so very much. Shamrock owners have a great sense of humor - not to mention a wee little bit of sarcasm. I just read the last three pages of postings and pee'd my pants laughing. I bet yachting magazine would pay money to reprint it in its entirety.

Actually, did you guys ever think that that was I-Fish's intent from the beginning. I'm in marketing and I've never seen a better display of reverse marketing in my life. Three pages of posts from every major member of this site, and then what..........finally.........pics. BEAUTIFUL JOB Ifish!!! I don't think any selling post has gotten this much attention in a long time. But I am disappointed that Lep didn't join in the fun. Hope you sell her soon!!!!

Bill

[easytimes455]

Actually, did you guys ever think that that was I-Fish's intent from the beginning.


Sounds good, but I've been manipulated before, and that's not what that was. Besides, if the boat doesn't sell through this forum... all that talk won't amount to a hill of oyster shells.

I really think he was stressing about NEEDING to sell his boat and not wanting to say he needed help. It's not like he couldn't have gotten some assistance for the asking. After all, ASSISTANCE IS WHAT WE DO HERE, if anyone takes a little time out of their busy life to notice.

I'm just glad Rick was able to crack his shell and help him, by saying almost the same things the rest of us had already said.

I was going to PM him, myself, but when he pointed out that I had no life, I figured I wasn't qualified to help anyone. Gosh, now what do I do?

[morning wood]

Man did I miss all the fun. ET has posted all my pics for me. Oh my wife did some too. Ifish remember these guys and gals are the best. If you got a problem they can't help you with, you aint trying hard enough. Look forward to seeing your new boat. I think Bo knows how to post pics. :wink: Welcome aboard.
Morning Wood
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[i fish]

Well you guys, I'm overwhemled!!

Thanks to Rick I'm now in good grace with all you Shammys. I hope.

Getout and start beating the bush.

Will take more photos today at yard. Don't know how soon they'll be done.I'm off to Ca for a week to visit my kids and have an early Christmas.

Photos asap!!!

[Tony]

:lol: This was a 5 on Tony's Beer Scale :lol:

[easytimes455]

Boy oh boy... a five?

That really sucks. I'll probably have arthritis in my fingers from all that typing and only got a five. Dang!

You're a hard man, Tony. You better enjoy those five Molsons.

[i fish]

Let me help pay the christmas bills!?

Find a buyer and I will pay$ 1000.00 as finder fee!!!

A healthy and happy new year!!!

Saw the old president Bush today, fishing on a flats boat in Boca Grande.

What do ya think of that?

i fish

[i fish]

Rick, I have 12 photos. Tried faxing this am. You do not have color on yr fax. Correct?

How did I get the first photo to you?

Pls help.

Len

[Squid Row]

Len,
Take the negatives back to the photo lab and have them developed into a cd then you can post them here.

[i fish]

I now have a cd . I don't know how to get it into my pc, then on to this web site.

Help

Email: jabe@ewol.com

Fax: 9419649309

Ph: 9419640410

Thanks in advance!!

Len, who just wants to sell his gd boat!!

[i fish]

A Happy New Year to all out there

[easytimes455]

First thing... do you have a CD ROM drive on your computer?
If you do... put the CD in it. Double click the My Computer icon on your desktop. Find the CD drive icon in the window and double click it.

*** It may take some time for the drive to crank up... so be patient and don't click a bunch of times. Computers become confused when you do that.

Hopefully, they put the pictures in a folder on the disk. If so, click on them and drag them to your desktop. That's the area you look at when you first turn on your computer.

If they aren't in a folder, RIGHT click on your desktop and click NEW... then click FOLDER. A folder will appear with New Folder as the name... that's good enough for now... just hit enter.

Click on each picture and drag them to the folder... just hold the button on the mouse down and make the cursor move to that folder, until it turns a funky blue... then release the button.

They won't move out of the disk... so you'll just be making copies in that folder on your desktop.

When you get this done, post back. If I say much more it will become too confusing. If I'm going to slow... let me know. I can speed this up. If it's not me, someone will jump in... lots of these guys can do this. And you will too, if you don't give up on us.

It just sounds like you need computer help. Believe me, there are many more on this forum who are in the same boat... and all of us have been there at one time or another. We're a little irreverent at times, but we won't ever fail to help if we can.

Matter of fact, if you meet us somewhere in the middle, we have people young and limber enough to bend over backwards for you. It just ain't me. I haven't done that move in many years.
Charles

[i fish]

Thanks for yr help, easytimes455.

Got the discand photos in my computer. When I tried to move photo to web site , photo opened. Could not get space to move others over.

Can't figure out.

Plus, my computer folder says 0 bytes left, no more space available. Now what? Is this part of problem?

Trying like hell to be patient with all this.

Len

[easytimes455]

Being upset won't help... believe me... I tried that... never worked. Take a deep breath and know that we will get this done. You ain't alone in it.

Okay, lets try this... just to take the stress off of you... and it won't stress me at all. We'll do it this way.

Do you know how to send pictures by email? If you are using Outlook or Outlook Express, you can probably take them a few at a time and ship them to me.

This is one time when clicking on them and dragging them to the mail message will work. Open an email edit... you know... it's that "New" button when you want to start an email message from your end, rather than replying. You can also click on the link below... it should open a mail message.

Use the restore size window. That's the one that doesn't fill the screen completely. Then open the folder/disk with the pictures in it. Pick the best photos and drag about four of them to the message... anywhere in the text editing window will be good enough. Drop them right there... you should see another small slot open with some files in it, on your message frame, just below the Subject line.

Address the message to me: easytimes@mac.com
Then click Send.

I'll post them to my Mac site and we can put them on the forum from there. It's the most reliable means I have. And I'll have some pictures of a good looking Shamrock in return for doing this.

If you are using Yahoo, Hotmail, Lycos, or anyone of the free webmail services, you'll have to use their attachment protocol... some use a drag and drop, but I won't get into any of that, unless you have one of those.

We will get your pictures posted... some way or another. If they need shrinking to post up, I'll handle that too. After we do this...if you want to learn to do this... I'll help you with that, but let's get the boat ad up with pix, first.

Whatever you do... stressing won't help.
Charles

[i fish]

Did you get photos via e mail as suggested?

I had hair on my head before I posted my sham for sale here!!!

That should be enough fodder for you guys!!

Happy hangovers.

Len aka i fish

[easytimes455]

I got your message about the returned mail... if the filesize was too big, you may have been restricted by your ISP, if you're on a phone modem. My cable ISP restricts my mail to 3 megs. That's why I use Mac mail and Yahoo for large file emailing. I can send 10 megs per mail with those.

Consider this like working on a boat... when you get your butt kicked going at a project one way, you try something else.

Many guys on this forum have gone through the same thing you're doing, right now. You ain't unique.

I have a feeling your pictures are going to be too big for direct attachment to the forum, or the forum gallery. If mailing them is difficult, adjusting them with photo editing software is going to be out of the question.

Check your email. We ain't done yet.
Charles

[i fish]

Again, thanks for yr help.

Can't give up now, too much into this!!

Len

[fisherofmen]

Len,

Sorry for the delay. I've be out of town snow skiing. If Easy did not get you going, call me and I will walk you through it. You can email them to me and I will post them up.

Rick Smith
813-267-6846
rsmith@westcoastfinancial.com

[easytimes455]

Len,

Sorry for the delay. I've be out of town snow skiing. If Easy did not get you going, call me and I will walk you through it. You can email them to me and I will post them up.


It's up Rick... on a different but same named thread.
http://www.fishtheclassic.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4634

[fisherofmen]

Easy,

Thanks for helping Len get the pictures posted. I know and understand the frustration that goes with electronic media. I'm sure he appreciates it.

Rick

[easytimes455]

Yep, I went through all that beginning in 1995 and numerous years after that. I can sure understand it. Actually, I'm doing that right now with this Mac computer on the other desk. They're simpler than Windows, but it takes some work to do more advanced stuff. Sometimes it's good to just say the truth and let people help, when they can.

Much of that dynamic is now being experienced in the areas around the Indian Ocean. Those folks are willing to accept help from anyone, for sure. Our problems seem pretty superficial, best I can tell.
Charles

[i fish]

Rick, easy has been great help!!

Hope you enjoyed snow country. It's even better with family.

Holidays over, now to refocus. And I hope for some action on the boat.

Thanks for help!!!

Len

[fisherofmen]

I fish,

Keep the faith. Your boat will sell. It is very sought after, just be patient. You might consider putting it on Traderonline.com. I'll give you a hand if you need it.

Rick

[i fish]

Easy, I went to my yard last week and listed my boat w dealer there. Now I won't have to pay storage on two boats. Dealer cuts a deal with yard. Trade off will be storage saved vs. comm. paid. I hope.

Dealer will list w/ Trader online.

I told dealer my min or bottom I'll take for old boat. He agreed to a scaled down comm. if it comes to that.

How does that sound?

Is it panic time yet?

[Damon]

Is it panic time yet?

It's not panic-times, it's Easy-times.......

Patience, Grasshopper......

[easytimes455]

Time of enlightenment.

When you get past this, you'll smile about it.

You'll probably sell yours. I still have mine.

[fisherofmen]

Len,

If you are really concerned there are a few things you can do to help your chances in selling your boat.

Have the broker list it on the following sites

www.traderonline.com

www.yachtworld.com

Most brokers would normally do this however, it never hurts to ask. Another thing you can do is tell your broker to take about 20 different pictures of your boat and that way he can email them to potential customers. I have sold two Shamrocks to people in California. One was sold from the Shamrock site and the other one was sold from the traderonline.com site. Both transactions went incredibly smoothly. I made sure before they bought airline tickets they new what they were coming to look at and what my absolute bottom line was period. Len, if I get a chance I'll take a ton of pics for you and help any way i can.

Rick

[i fish]

All I see is $$$$$$$ flying out between my fingers.

Two insurance policies.

Two boats to fix. OK one under warrenty

Two boats possibly costing me storage. Broker in my corner on that.

Two boats jumping over the fence inmy dreams!!!

I can't walk and chew gum!!!

Most of all, I'm a tight yankee.

OK guys start chewing on that!!

[CORNMAN]

From one tight yankee to another.

Never bite off more than you can chew!!! :wink:

[easytimes455]

My observations about the resale value of Shamrocks is that they are a great old boat, for the buyer as well as the seller. As a late model boat, you need to be willing to take a pretty good hit, if you buy a new model and want to sell it before it has any age on it. You can count your usage as value, after a period of time.

Seems to me, buying a new model of the same boat that I already owned before it was even ten years old, NOT a characteristic of a "tight Yankee". I darn sure can't do it... not for the loss I'd have to take... and I'm no Yankee.

Does anyone down there rent boats? I had a broker tell me that's how they did some of their boats. People would rent them for a month, and then if they liked them enough, they would count the rental fees as part of the selling price. I don't deal in boat sales, but I guess it's one way to do it. Might be worth looking into.
Charles

[morning wood]

One at a time. Never buy one before you sell the other unless you can afford to keep both. I hope you are a rich tight Yankee.
Morning Wood

[Squid Row]

Since you are taking the broker approach, did you choose a broker that is a shamrock dealer?

A lot of times a dealer / broker will get considerably higher interest in used boats of a brand they sell new.