Anonymous
01-21-2003, 10:57 PM
Boog
normal member in standard member. 1. Installing Fresh Water Cooling
My next upgrade and "fight the winter blues project" is installing fresh water cooling on my 246 WA, 5.7 TBI power. I just received a factory kit from Shamrock through DIM. It looks like the real thing, but no instructions. I think I have it 95% figured out in the family room and hope that by putting it on board Saturday everything will "fall" into place. I am particularly intrigued by one large right angle bracket that has a circular hole cutout surrounded by 4 bolt holes on one leg and a triangle shaped other leg with a bolt hole at each corner. It looks like it would make a sturdy gunwale rod holder for an unlimited rig or transom mount fish deboner. Any idea what it supports and where it goes? Any other installation tips and suggestions would be appreciated! I would like to look at a late model 5.7 FW cooling if anyone in the Hampton Roads area is willing to have a fellow shamrocker visit. Thank goodness I can tell the days are getting longer!
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Tight Lines Always!
Date: 11:27 p.m. on 01-23-2001
Jim1042
normal member in standard member. 2. Re:Installing Fresh Water Cooling
Sorry no answers to installing the unit. Can you tell me what the price was and who you ordered it from? Also if you can post after it is installed and say how it went. thanx
Date: 04:46 p.m. on 01-24-2001
Jim1042
normal member in standard member. 3. Re:Installing Fresh Water Cooling
woops
Date: 04:46 p.m. on 01-24-2001
Prior Engagement
premium member in standard member. 4. Re:Installing Fresh Water Cooling
Boog,
I got no idea what you are talking about. However, if you want to drive to the Middle Peninsula (Tappahannock to be exact) you are more than welcome to look at mine. Ski Boats Unlimited will not accomodate you for a look?
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Fair seas and tight lines,
Mike N.
Date: 00:09 a.m. on 01-25-2001
Team No Slack
normal member in standard member. 5. Re:Installing Fresh Water Cooling
Boog,
Ski Boats has a 2000 FWC Carb engine on the lot. Thinking about taking that one home soon. Better get there before the VA beach show opens as they will be gone for over a week straight.
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Bill Pacey
Team No Slack
Date: 09:16 p.m. on 01-25-2001
Boog
normal member in standard member. 6. Re:Installing Fresh Water Cooling
Follow Up:
FWC is now installed and operational!Definitely not a 3 hour job for the weekend mechanic. Here are some tips(in order of importance):
1. Pull the engine and hire a PCM mechanic.
2. Talk to a mechanic who has done one of these, and if still serious, consider psychotherapy. Look at one installed and take notes/pics.
4. Take a refresher course on rubik's cube or chinese jig saw puzzles.
5. See if you can get instructions...I wasn't successful. Also expected some pics from PCM via DIM, but they never came across.
6. Plan on a weekend with some strong labor that can contort in awkward positions, provide leverage and muscle in ways that the Nautilus equipment can't train, and have good light and tools handy.
7. 1.75" water hose doesn't bend well and has a mind of its own; however, brute force and a good lubricant overcomes all.
8. Relocate the fuel cell first; the funny part I couldn't figure out was a new bracket to relocate it. Now, with it relocated, see if you can figure out how to replace the drive belt without removing anything.
9. The keys seems to be installing the fixed brackets that mount the heat exchanger - gives a reference point for the other parts that you can jockey around. Also see where you have room to slide hoses back and forth to move parts around. Don't tighten any hose clamps until done. Make sure you can get to each clamp when the installation is finished without having to take anything else apart. Save the "Y" fitting until last and prepare to be frustrated. It is OK to cut the hoses, judiciously.
10. You'll need to relocate the coolant temp sender from the old thermostat housing to the same location as the overheat c/o switch. It can be done with a few extra parts.
11. Buy some larger hose clamps for the 1" manifold hoses. I couldn't figure out how to stretch or resize the ones supplied by PCM.
12. email me with questions and prayer requests. I am doing a drawing for reference and will take some digital pics.
13. Good luck and please tell me it was worth it.
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Tight Lines Always!
Date: 07:04 p.m. on 02-01-2001
Prior Engagement
premium member in standard member. 7. Re:Installing Fresh Water Cooling
Yikes ......
Sounds like trading the boat in or just repowering with a FWC engine would have been easier. Makes me glad I got my FWC factory installed! You forgot to mention the scrapped knuckles.
Glad you got it done. I do believe it will be worth it.
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Fair seas and tight lines,
Mike N.
Date: 08:09 p.m. on 02-01-2001
normal member in standard member. 1. Installing Fresh Water Cooling
My next upgrade and "fight the winter blues project" is installing fresh water cooling on my 246 WA, 5.7 TBI power. I just received a factory kit from Shamrock through DIM. It looks like the real thing, but no instructions. I think I have it 95% figured out in the family room and hope that by putting it on board Saturday everything will "fall" into place. I am particularly intrigued by one large right angle bracket that has a circular hole cutout surrounded by 4 bolt holes on one leg and a triangle shaped other leg with a bolt hole at each corner. It looks like it would make a sturdy gunwale rod holder for an unlimited rig or transom mount fish deboner. Any idea what it supports and where it goes? Any other installation tips and suggestions would be appreciated! I would like to look at a late model 5.7 FW cooling if anyone in the Hampton Roads area is willing to have a fellow shamrocker visit. Thank goodness I can tell the days are getting longer!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tight Lines Always!
Date: 11:27 p.m. on 01-23-2001
Jim1042
normal member in standard member. 2. Re:Installing Fresh Water Cooling
Sorry no answers to installing the unit. Can you tell me what the price was and who you ordered it from? Also if you can post after it is installed and say how it went. thanx
Date: 04:46 p.m. on 01-24-2001
Jim1042
normal member in standard member. 3. Re:Installing Fresh Water Cooling
woops
Date: 04:46 p.m. on 01-24-2001
Prior Engagement
premium member in standard member. 4. Re:Installing Fresh Water Cooling
Boog,
I got no idea what you are talking about. However, if you want to drive to the Middle Peninsula (Tappahannock to be exact) you are more than welcome to look at mine. Ski Boats Unlimited will not accomodate you for a look?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fair seas and tight lines,
Mike N.
Date: 00:09 a.m. on 01-25-2001
Team No Slack
normal member in standard member. 5. Re:Installing Fresh Water Cooling
Boog,
Ski Boats has a 2000 FWC Carb engine on the lot. Thinking about taking that one home soon. Better get there before the VA beach show opens as they will be gone for over a week straight.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bill Pacey
Team No Slack
Date: 09:16 p.m. on 01-25-2001
Boog
normal member in standard member. 6. Re:Installing Fresh Water Cooling
Follow Up:
FWC is now installed and operational!Definitely not a 3 hour job for the weekend mechanic. Here are some tips(in order of importance):
1. Pull the engine and hire a PCM mechanic.
2. Talk to a mechanic who has done one of these, and if still serious, consider psychotherapy. Look at one installed and take notes/pics.
4. Take a refresher course on rubik's cube or chinese jig saw puzzles.
5. See if you can get instructions...I wasn't successful. Also expected some pics from PCM via DIM, but they never came across.
6. Plan on a weekend with some strong labor that can contort in awkward positions, provide leverage and muscle in ways that the Nautilus equipment can't train, and have good light and tools handy.
7. 1.75" water hose doesn't bend well and has a mind of its own; however, brute force and a good lubricant overcomes all.
8. Relocate the fuel cell first; the funny part I couldn't figure out was a new bracket to relocate it. Now, with it relocated, see if you can figure out how to replace the drive belt without removing anything.
9. The keys seems to be installing the fixed brackets that mount the heat exchanger - gives a reference point for the other parts that you can jockey around. Also see where you have room to slide hoses back and forth to move parts around. Don't tighten any hose clamps until done. Make sure you can get to each clamp when the installation is finished without having to take anything else apart. Save the "Y" fitting until last and prepare to be frustrated. It is OK to cut the hoses, judiciously.
10. You'll need to relocate the coolant temp sender from the old thermostat housing to the same location as the overheat c/o switch. It can be done with a few extra parts.
11. Buy some larger hose clamps for the 1" manifold hoses. I couldn't figure out how to stretch or resize the ones supplied by PCM.
12. email me with questions and prayer requests. I am doing a drawing for reference and will take some digital pics.
13. Good luck and please tell me it was worth it.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tight Lines Always!
Date: 07:04 p.m. on 02-01-2001
Prior Engagement
premium member in standard member. 7. Re:Installing Fresh Water Cooling
Yikes ......
Sounds like trading the boat in or just repowering with a FWC engine would have been easier. Makes me glad I got my FWC factory installed! You forgot to mention the scrapped knuckles.
Glad you got it done. I do believe it will be worth it.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fair seas and tight lines,
Mike N.
Date: 08:09 p.m. on 02-01-2001