Anonymous
01-21-2003, 11:39 PM
rejoice
normal member in standard member. 1. transom crack
I noticed a crack in the gelcoat right down the center of my transom on my 1989, 22'cutty cabin. Does anybody have any experience with this kind of defect?
Rejoice
Date: 12:59 p.m. on 02-26-2001
Leprechaun
premium member in standard member. 2. Re:transom crack
Yes - all "Well seasoned" Shammies acquire this distinctive feature. Its actually the seam where the two hull halves are joined. Many are not aware that these boats were (and are)not laid-up in a traditional full hull mould. They're made in two hull sections and then later joined. The "crack" you are seeing is actually the gelcoat flexing and then cracking away from the adhesive that fills the hull joint. Its absolutely not "Structural" in nature - strictly cosmetic and when I look at a used Shammie and do not see it, I think of two alternatives - 1/ the boat has very low hours on it - obviously quite desireable or 2/ the last owner was obsessively anal and had the crack filled, faired and re-gelcoated - also desireable, I guess. Doesn't matter what you do, that crack will reappear in due course. Let it be, it gives the Grady-White owners in your marina something to feel superior about. God knows for what they paid, they need it. Rgds, Leprechaun
Date: 01:40 p.m. on 02-26-2001
rejoice
normal member in standard member. 3. Re:transom crack
Thanks Lep, I didn't think it looked serious, but I'm glad someone else confirmed that. And I will take your advise and not repair it. I'm going to try to cover most of it with the boat name.
Rejoice
Date: 02:54 p.m. on 02-26-2001
Jim
normal member in standard member. 4. Re:Re:transom crack
I have heard the pocket drive hulls are built traditionally...not vertically joined like the old keel drive. Shamrock builds three boats now for the same cost as the old method. They're just gettin in your pocket big time now! It's probably what put the original company under. The new owners are the ones that developed the pocket drive and abandoned the keel. SHAME on you Shamrock!
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rejoice (02-26-2001 02:54 p.m.):
Thanks Lep, I didn't think it looked serious, but I'm glad someone else confirmed that. And I will take your advise and not repair it. I'm going to try to cover most of it with the boat name.
Rejoice
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Date: 08:47 a.m. on 02-28-2001
Leprechaun
premium member in standard member. 5. Re:transom crack
Jim is probably right on all except what put the original Shamrock out. What did in the original company was the bringing to market of the Grandslam31. A whole new building/product from scratch cost them millions. And right then our friends in Congress slapped the Marine Industry with the 10% Luxury Tax. Richie rich's didn't buy new boats after that. Plus we went into that deep dark early-90s recession which finished Shamrock off. They actually went under with a full load of unfilled smaller boat orders.
None of the above takes ANYTHING away from those few GS31s that actually got built. They are clearly one of the best built/best laid out/best riding hulls ever designed and are light-years better than the new "GS29" that the new company recently introed. My dream rig is a GS31 repowered with a nice healthy pair of 300hp Cummins. And all I need is a measily 6 numbers on a little lottery ticket. Rgds, Leprechaun
Date: 09:43 a.m. on 03-01-2001
Fishin' Finn
normal member in standard member. 6. Re:transom crack
I'm itching to get working on the Predator 20 that I got last fall. While I was walking around, checking the boat out, I noticed the crack which you described between the stern light and the kicker bracket, and started getting that sinking feeling. After reading Leprechaun's response, I feel better about it. Thanks. Regardless, the kicker bracket is coming off as soon as the cover comes off. Tight Lines!!!
Date: 10:52 p.m. on 03-01-2001
normal member in standard member. 1. transom crack
I noticed a crack in the gelcoat right down the center of my transom on my 1989, 22'cutty cabin. Does anybody have any experience with this kind of defect?
Rejoice
Date: 12:59 p.m. on 02-26-2001
Leprechaun
premium member in standard member. 2. Re:transom crack
Yes - all "Well seasoned" Shammies acquire this distinctive feature. Its actually the seam where the two hull halves are joined. Many are not aware that these boats were (and are)not laid-up in a traditional full hull mould. They're made in two hull sections and then later joined. The "crack" you are seeing is actually the gelcoat flexing and then cracking away from the adhesive that fills the hull joint. Its absolutely not "Structural" in nature - strictly cosmetic and when I look at a used Shammie and do not see it, I think of two alternatives - 1/ the boat has very low hours on it - obviously quite desireable or 2/ the last owner was obsessively anal and had the crack filled, faired and re-gelcoated - also desireable, I guess. Doesn't matter what you do, that crack will reappear in due course. Let it be, it gives the Grady-White owners in your marina something to feel superior about. God knows for what they paid, they need it. Rgds, Leprechaun
Date: 01:40 p.m. on 02-26-2001
rejoice
normal member in standard member. 3. Re:transom crack
Thanks Lep, I didn't think it looked serious, but I'm glad someone else confirmed that. And I will take your advise and not repair it. I'm going to try to cover most of it with the boat name.
Rejoice
Date: 02:54 p.m. on 02-26-2001
Jim
normal member in standard member. 4. Re:Re:transom crack
I have heard the pocket drive hulls are built traditionally...not vertically joined like the old keel drive. Shamrock builds three boats now for the same cost as the old method. They're just gettin in your pocket big time now! It's probably what put the original company under. The new owners are the ones that developed the pocket drive and abandoned the keel. SHAME on you Shamrock!
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rejoice (02-26-2001 02:54 p.m.):
Thanks Lep, I didn't think it looked serious, but I'm glad someone else confirmed that. And I will take your advise and not repair it. I'm going to try to cover most of it with the boat name.
Rejoice
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Date: 08:47 a.m. on 02-28-2001
Leprechaun
premium member in standard member. 5. Re:transom crack
Jim is probably right on all except what put the original Shamrock out. What did in the original company was the bringing to market of the Grandslam31. A whole new building/product from scratch cost them millions. And right then our friends in Congress slapped the Marine Industry with the 10% Luxury Tax. Richie rich's didn't buy new boats after that. Plus we went into that deep dark early-90s recession which finished Shamrock off. They actually went under with a full load of unfilled smaller boat orders.
None of the above takes ANYTHING away from those few GS31s that actually got built. They are clearly one of the best built/best laid out/best riding hulls ever designed and are light-years better than the new "GS29" that the new company recently introed. My dream rig is a GS31 repowered with a nice healthy pair of 300hp Cummins. And all I need is a measily 6 numbers on a little lottery ticket. Rgds, Leprechaun
Date: 09:43 a.m. on 03-01-2001
Fishin' Finn
normal member in standard member. 6. Re:transom crack
I'm itching to get working on the Predator 20 that I got last fall. While I was walking around, checking the boat out, I noticed the crack which you described between the stern light and the kicker bracket, and started getting that sinking feeling. After reading Leprechaun's response, I feel better about it. Thanks. Regardless, the kicker bracket is coming off as soon as the cover comes off. Tight Lines!!!
Date: 10:52 p.m. on 03-01-2001