Price vs. Quality in 351W repower

[grreatdog]

Originally Posted by J. Pat Baughman

JUST A HISTORY NOTE:
(I ran the very first Shamrock Ol' George ever made at Cape Coral in it's first demonstration before the media (Ft. Myers News Press). It sorta scared me as it seemed to almost jump out from under us a couple of times out there in that 17 ft. with 302 engine back in the early 70's. I watched them mix sand with epoxy to fill the keel for an early boat. Tad's Marine Service in Cape Coral was the first dealer. Tad lives in Cape Coral in the winters and is a great guy. I got this Shamrock at age 67 just because I have an attachment to the memories of way back then. My wife even did the art for the first Shamrock logo...long sense replaced with a more modern design.) J. PAT

From Nay's pictures of the prototype in action:



And Nay's shot of Hull No. 1:

[Mike Motti]

Pat: Superior Engines. 503-284-9116. I haven't gotten out for Kings this winter. Shoulder injury and a bunch of engines parts rattling around in the oil pan. I was going to go with the Chevy, but the change over was going to make it more expensive then sticking with Ford. Plus I already have a new starter, carb, fuel pump for the 351. Good luck.

[Severnman]

Originally Posted by Eyekymo

Here ya go.

http://www.hillbankmotorsports.com/c...ine-motor.html

Doesn't say, but with all that hardware you have to think it's a new over-bored block. A bit pricy for a shammy but schweet lookin. I wonder who's distributing the blocks and what they go for.

[Kurt]

Originally Posted by Severnman

Doesn't say, but with all that hardware you have to think it's a new over-bored block. A bit pricy for a shammy but schweet lookin. I wonder who's distributing the blocks and what they go for.

It's probably this Ford Racing 351W Sportsman block with a standard 4" bore. That engine is stroked to 4" (normal 351W stroke is 3.5") bringing its displacement up to 402 CID.

They are available from Ford Racing (or their dealers):

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=9190

[Quik Fix]

I'm having a 402 built now. I seriously think I will stroke all my rebuilds. Torque baby, torque. Repowering the Quik Fix ll with a 383 as we speak.

[Foxhole]

Originally Posted by Quik Fix

I'm having a 402 built now. I seriously think I will stroke all my rebuilds. Torque baby, torque. Re-powering the Quik Fix ll with a 383 as we speak.

Dang Quick don't you ever rest???

I had big ideas about finding a aluminum block w Cast iron sleeve, aluminum heads. I was going to build a good strong torquer till I found the price of aluminum components. It is amazing how fast I can come back to reality when the $$ came into play.

[inetmug]

Supposedly, Michigan motors has 351 Long blocks that they bought ford out of in '96. All oiled and in bags, pickled but brand new.

They do not advertise it I think if I remember. I got the info on the phone.

[inetmug]

This from Michigans Site:

About Ford Marine Engines


Ford marine engines are no longer produced or used by any marine engine manufacturer or boat company. 1996 was the last year that Ford produced marine engines such as the 351ci and 302ci engine. Some boat manufacturers continued to install the Ford 351W engine up to 2001 because of their excellent low end torque.

Michigan Motorz carries brand new (made in 1996) 351W base marine engines and a complete line of Ford remanufactured marine engines.

Call (248) 524-9600 for price and availability.

[Blankendingy]

Originally Posted by inetmug

This from Michigans Site:

About Ford Marine Engines


Ford marine engines are no longer produced or used by any marine engine manufacturer or boat company. 1996 was the last year that Ford produced marine engines such as the 351ci and 302ci engine. Some boat manufacturers continued to install the Ford 351W engine up to 2001 because of their excellent low end torque.

Michigan Motorz carries brand new (made in 1996) 351W base marine engines and a complete line of Ford remanufactured marine engines.

Call (248) 524-9600 for price and availability.

If that's the last word on new Ford blocks, we're back to GM blocks or nothing gas into the future. I hope Ford reconsiders because when there's no competition, the prices are going to go up on the GM based stuff.

[inetmug]

Originally Posted by Blankendingy

If that's the last word on new Ford blocks, we're back to GM blocks or nothing gas into the future. I hope Ford reconsiders because when there's no competition, the prices are going to go up on the GM based stuff.

I hear you. GM may drop the 350 some day as well, leaving only the 6.0

I would like the 6.0, but until I get some serious feedback on the mileage, the 350 it is.